2000 TJ build up

[bigblacktj]

Decided to just go ahead and build up my tj. Thought it would atleast give me something to do.

What I am putting on
-New rear leafs
-Hydro Assist
-42" TSL's Grooved
-Pro comp rockcrawler wheels
-Dana 44 hp
-Dana 60 FF
-Front detriot
-Rear undecided locker
-5.38 gears
-Steel brake lines
-High-steer knuckles
-High-steer arms
-DOM steering linkage
-all new pro comp shocks
-Heavy duty front diff cover

I will post pictures as soon I get things moving. Having to do alot of other side work right now and dont have much time. Once its all said and done I think it will be asome.

[BillM]

I would not run that D44 and 42's. A D44 is not much good for anything over 35's. I can however, and I may have already told youo about these, hook you up with a D60 front and 14B rear locked with 5.38's (pretty sure that is what they are geared) for around $1600. Just let me know. Sounds like you have a good game plan though. Get some pics of this monster up for us.

[bigblacktj]

This dana 44 will hold. 35 spline alloy shafts and hoping to get ox u-joints. Oh and High pinion thats alittle stronger. And it a 44's in front not rear front has less pressure on it. I know tons of people runng 36in tire on a dana 30. And about the rear 14 very bad on clearence. And The rear is a full float meaning the axle shafts are suspended so less pressure. This should hold up good from talking to the guys on pirate4x4. You cant find axles as nice as I got locked with 5.38 gears for $1,400. Trust me I looked.

[BillM]

Well definately some tough shafts up front. 60 in the back would be plenty too. I agree the 14B has to be shaved to get some clearance back. One friend has shaved an inch off the bottom and still catches it. I think that will be eliminated with his 39.50's though. Sounds like you got it worked out. Don't forget those pics.

[bigblacktj]

Picture of the tires and wheels together. I rolled them up beside my jeep to take pictures cant pull jeep out right now ground is to soft.
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/tires_3.jpg
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/thumbs/tires_2.jpg
Beside the explore everybody knows about how tall an explore is
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/thumbs/tires.jpg

[BillM]

big ones for sure.

[bigblacktj]

http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/01010133.JPG

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[BillM]

Are those on your Jeep already? Need some more lift or something. Either that or cut the fender wells out.

[bigblacktj]

Na that is just siting beside my jeep. It will be enough lift I think. It will have about 6in less tire in fender.

[BillM]

LOL....I thought you had them mounted on there already.

[gmbtj]

you need the competition cut crusher corners for the rear and then move your rear axle back a few inches and then you will be able to stuff those big ole tires. Im thinking quarter elliptical for the leaf springs in the rear.

[BillM]

it is a TJ Pat. Do you have leaves or coils Black?

[gmbtj]

He has a completely custom setup. Custom long arms up front, (and i mean really lonngggggggggggggg arms) and a custom leaf spring setup in the rear. It stands at almost a good 8 or so inches over mine, and flexes like crazy.

[bigblacktj]

nothing on the suspenion is stock all built. Not sure what I am going to do started installing hydro assist tonight.

[bigblacktj]

hydro assist is on. I put it on my dana 30 untill I get everything worked out. You can turn you wheels into almost anything. Not as strong as I herd it was going to be but makes me happy and is the best steering stablizer ever they say you cant hardly get death wobble with it. I will take pictures tomorow.

[IndyXJ]

What is or what does hydro assist do for you? I hear it tossed around alot, but want to know what it does from someone first hand. Thanks!

[gmbtj]

i think people that run the bigger tires usually run hydro assist or something similar, because with it, turning those big meats with just regular power steering would be quite hard. I dunno if it replaces the power steering pump or more or what it replaces, but it does something that gives the steering system more power.

[BillM]

You actually use the power steering pump to work the Hydro assist. There is a write-up on Pirate about tapping into the steering pump to run the hydro's.

[bigblacktj]

I drove it around for the first time today with hydro assist. This is what it does for yout it Increases your turning power by useing a ram for pushing power. Makes it easyer to turn into stuff like rocks when offroad and helps turn a larger tire for that matter. On road it works as the best steering sablizer you can have. Keeps you from getting death wobble no matter what.( dont hold me to that though) But all in all it just makes it easy to turn your tires and helps you in part like when you offroad and your steering pump just doesnt have enough to turn into something. The only thing I dont like and am looking into doing something about is there is a delay in fluid sent from your power steering to your ram. So there is some delay of reaction but very very very little. Wouldnt hurt you offroad at all but on road its hard to get use to but now in just one day of driving I think I am use to it. Well anyways here are picture.
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/01010136.JPG
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/01010137.JPG
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/01010136.JPG

[BillM]

It looks to me like your draglink is 2 piece

[IndyXJ]

Wow, thanks for the awesome pics.

[bigblacktj]

If I would have know more about it soon I would have had this on it along time ago. It helps with bump steer and never get death wobble on the way back from the trail.

[bigblacktj]

well since I got it all set up on my dana 30 right now I am thinking about wheeling it before going to other axles. But still she is forsale even now.

[bigblacktj]

anybody ever had problems with motor mounts braking?
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/500/medium/010101381.JPG

[bigblacktj]

guess not

[gmbtj]

go get some bomb proof motor mounts. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tu.gif

[bigblacktj]

Thats M.O.R.E 1" lift motor mounts they are supose to be bomb proof.

[gmbtj]

Yep, I know.

[bigblacktj]

I am trying to get M.O.R.E to replace the Mount. I am going to wheel one more time before my jeep is done wheeling. I get some of it repainted in 3 weeks. So it will be something before then.

[scrambled]

Your not gonna wheel that thing with a broken motor mount are you? I would just weld that up and it should be good.

[bigblacktj]

I am not going to wheel it hoping to have fixed by end of week.

[bigblacktj]

Having problems getting another bracket from M.O.R.E. they clam it might now be defective. It broke while being on the jeep correctly and its not defective. Its bomb proof this shouldnt brake I havent even put it through much. I dont know what to say hold up on the build.

[bigblacktj]

got motor mount taken care of. I had it sold but the guy's wife wouldnt let him do it we were supose to meet sunday and he backed out Thursday before. Oh well now I have started building again. Been working on my front axle have some picture of work on it.

[bigblacktj]

Well i dont know how to post pictures up with new host how do I post pictures up of the axle builds. They are in my photos on this site.

[bigblacktj]

started some work cutting off stuff I didnt need in the rear get everything put where I want it and looking how I want it. The front just needs part of an upper put on and the track bar bracket(have to wait for steering to be put on for track bar)

Somebody please show me how to post my pictures.

[BillM]

type this... place url here

The place that is hosting your pics has to allow you to be able to link to there pages for this.

[mawardjr]

The new gallery is a pain to get the image name from.

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[bigblacktj]

picture above is where I just started to clean off the out side of the front axle. Tonight I pulled the gears and cleaning the inside of tubes. I getting everything new or sanding it and painting it I will take more pictures tomorow. Soon as New detriot comes in I will put gears and locker in. Haveing problems getting old u-joints out got any ideas? I will have to use stock shafts untill I get the alloys in.

[bigblacktj]

http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=17209
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[bigblacktj]

My transfer case is still a np231 but with the 2low and the HD slipyoke with 32spline safts. With enlarged yoke to take larger u-joints. Now thats strong. As for hydro assist I am adding a bigger container and a cooler on the return line. still trying to decide if I want to take the wheel base to about 108. I got some Air shocks now for the rear if I want to use them for the suspenion. building a new front bumper with stringer and tube fenders. any other ideas I should do to this jeep.

[bigblacktj]

http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010195_thumb.jpg

[bigblacktj]

Custom build Aluminum body Air Shocks. Now I need to get my tank filled with nitrogen to fill this babys up. Think I am going to use these with rear stretch I am looking to do. Anybody know how to get ahold of johnny with the rubi?
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010189_94968_thumb.jpg

[bigblacktj]

Well I ordered the joints I need today I guess I will have to stretch it now.

[mawardjr]

Anybody know how to get ahold of johnny with the rubi?

Doesn't he go by the username Pete?

[Fred]

Yes his board name IS pete.

[bigblacktj]

Well if I see him on I will ask him some questions but I think I have everything ready to go. For the rear suspenion links I am running high clearance Lowers. I will post of picture of them after I get the built or atleast layed out. On the end connecting to my frame I will be running 1 1/8" by 1 1/8" hiems for the part connecting to the axle will be a rubber bushing joint(for alittle softness to it) The lowers will be made out of some metal as last 2in with 1/4in wall. I will be running a wishbone 4link so the upper connecting to the axle will be Johnny joint and the 2 connecting to frame will be rubber bushings. The upper will be 1 1/2" .120 DOM I think. The rear will be riding on my custom Air shocks. Not sure on length yet but think I am shooting for 114".

For the front steering today I ordered FK JMX hiems 3/4 by 3/4 for my ends. Will be running DOM steering linkage in front.

[bigblacktj]

here is designs for the rear arms.
Lower
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/lowercontrollarm2_thumb.jpg
Upper
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/uppercontrolArm.jpg

[bigblacktj]

Got hiems in Sat. They looks great and very strong built they are FK 3/4 by 3/4. Here is a pic
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010189_489424_thumb.jpg

Here is just an idea of my rear suspenion will be set up.
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/Reardrawing.jpg

[BillM]

Looks like the setup that Full Traction uses in the back. Ends up being a 3 link setup. Will be the same way I go with my 1tons.

[gmbtj]

Similar to a Wishbone suspension for the rear, which is what I plan on doing in the distant future.

[bigblacktj]

Those hiems I took the picture of where for steering. I got 1 by 1 1/8 for lower arms links in. And My johnny joint came in today for upper. So did my driverside steer knuckle had it milled and drilled and taped. Running all steering up on top of highsteer arms. I will try and get pictures once I get steering cleaned up and ready to go starting college this week so not much time for working on jeep.

[BillM]

Sounding really good man. Look forward to the pics and all.

[mikea]

his e-mail is johnniepetersin@yahoo.com I have his phone number if you need it.

[bigblacktj]

Thanks mike I was just trying to get a hold of him to find out what all plastic that he cut out of the rear when he did his comp cut.

[bigblacktj]

My new knuckles came in today. So all steering parts are here I will start puting that together. I decided to use all 2in sqaure tubing with 1/4 wall. That is some haeavy stuff there. trying to decided how to build my cross brace on the frame for upper links to tie into.

[Jeepster89]

Your TJ looks mean as **** I cant wait to see pics of it after you take it wheeling.
Sam ~(0lll0)~

[bigblacktj]

Thanks Sam.
So this is where I am at now installing the cooler for my hydro assist. Here is picture of the front now alittle dirty.
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010205_thumb.jpg
Then I droped my tank and relocated it in the cab.
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010194_813818_thumb.jpg

[bigblacktj]

It was then time to cut the fenders. So here it goes get better picture in the day tomorow I hope but here are the first.
Before
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After
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[bigblacktj]

Went and picked up the axles gears with lockers in them. Also picked up a stronger rear differ cover. Now I have to work on front diff cover. Also had the air shocks charged with 250psi of nitrogen today. Bent the tubes for grill protector and tube fenders. Put rear axle together enough I can roll it out to finsh with brackets on axles inside. Picked up tubes for the cage to beaf it up alittle untill can get another one. I will get more pictures up later this week.

Lets here what you think of build so far.

[bigblacktj]

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[bigblacktj]

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New front axle being put under.
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Going to have to get my front driveshaft shortend. The highpinion just makes it to long. So my front will be 3in shorter and my rear will be about 12in longer.

[BillM]

Looking great

[bigblacktj]

I will pist up pictures tomorow I got the front axle under and tires on the front. Got to drive it out and turn it around and back in some I can work on the rear. I take some picture out in sun of 35's in rear with 42s in front.

[bigblacktj]

been a hold up on rear end I am waiting on brackets for disk because I busted a drum so I am going to disk in the rear. Started building my brackets so I will get some picture of it all up.

[bigblacktj]

I have built my rear links I am trying to mount up the Air shocks in the rear I will try and get some pictures up on here. I sent both drive shafts off to be retubed with 3/8in tubing and cut to length.

[admar2]

lookin good!


she's gonna be a real beast.

[bigblacktj]

Finshing the rear wishbone tomorow afternoon will take pictures then I will mount my shock hoops and shocks then take it all apart and paint it. Here is a picture of it yesterday.
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/01010228_811783_thumb.jpg

[bigblacktj]

http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/6/5/Myjeep_thumb.jpg
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[gmbtj]

I think you need to work on your approach and departure angles. :D