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Paul E
06-06-2005, 10:18 AM
Well, after losing about what seems like 50 pounds in sweat this weekend (hot and humid!), everything is DONE! My helper (son) had some classes this weekend, so I did all of this solo.

What was expected to be about a 2.5" lift ended up being closer to 3.5" over what I had before! The rear springs are the OME's for an Unlimited (HD) and the front are the HD for the regular Wrangler. I'm sure it will settle a bit and end up around 3" until I add my winch. In the pics below, it doesn't really show up too well, but a couple of measurements on the rear showed nearly a 4" lift using the method described in OME's stuff vs what I had before I started. I think my stock stuff was definitely worn!

I'm not going to a writeup as there are LOTS of posts on how to do an OME writeup, but I'll add my experiences for those doing this same thing.

First, jack stands, a good floor jack, and the proper tools are a MUST!!! Before I started this, I went to Harbor Freight for their sidewalk sale and got a new set of open-ended wrenches REAL cheap when I was buying my right angle drill attachment. A rental spring compressor from Autozone is great too, esp with taller springs.

Second, do the bar pin installation BEFORE you do this. This saved me a LOT of sweat and frustration!

Third, take digital photos if you can of how everything goes together BEFORE you take it apart. I referred back to mine a couple of times to make sure I was doing it right. While the OME instructions are EXCELLENT, having photos helps me greatly.

Fourth, the rear suspension is a TON easier with that **** gas tank out of the way! I am SO glad I waited to do the Kilby at the same time. Once I finished the front, I realized this was NOT a 2.5" lift! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif So I started on the rear by doing the first part of the Kilby install and relieving fuel pressure, and dropping the tank. Set it outside while doing the work gave me a lot of room to get to the rear shocks and to do the trackbar relocation.

Fifth, that trackbar relocation bracket is a PITA to install, even with the gas tank out! I did the front in about 1.5-2 hours. The rear took probably twice that! The instructions have you put the rear springs back on before doing it, but you have to remove the driver rear spring to be able to drill the holes you need for the relo bracket. No biggie because once you unhook the trackbar, the rear sags down JUST fine to fit the springs in there. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hooking it back up, well, that is a little more challenging!

Sixth, the Kilby installed just fine, once the hoses are all routed properly. One thing I did NOT see in the instructions is the stuff about the ground strap for the gas tank. I tore mine when I dropped the tank and realized that when I was about to put the new one on and saw a piece of something hanging from my frame... What's THAT? OOPS! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Well, creative electrical engineering, electrical tape, and duct tape work wonders to reattach that (for now).

Seventh, the Kilby is a tight fit and it wanted to fit towards the front of its mounting slots. Well, a 6' steel bar took care of that so I could shift it back a bit and give the track bar some more flex room. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Eighth, remember to reconnect your gas tank wiring and hoses before you start the Jeep. Easier to start that way. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ninth, I had to install the t-case drop. Vibes were not bad, but noticable enough that it bugged me. Thank goodness for breaker bars (picked one up at HF Sat morning too)!

Driving impressions:
DAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNNNN it rides REAL smooth on road and has no problems with potholes or bumps. I heard a couple of BANGS on the first test drive as everything settled. I stopped to make sure nothing fell off and everything was tight (took tools with me on the drive). I suspect it was just the springs coming into place finally. Alignment is not an issue - Kermit tracks straight and true. But I'll probably verify the alignment another evening just to make sure. The front axle is off a bit, but I'm not going to drill a hole in the trackbar. After messing with the rear, I'll just by an adjustable front bar from Rusty's at some point and call it good. For now it is fine.

Below are a few pics of before and after. If you have any questions, just let me know! More pics are in my gallery (http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/showgallery.php?cat=15426).

Before:
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/15311/medium/163DSCN00771.JPG

After:
http://www.itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/data/15426/medium/DSCN0129.JPG

mawardjr
06-06-2005, 10:25 AM
Looks good! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tu.gif

Paul E
06-06-2005, 10:49 AM
Needs bigger tires though. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Even my wife said they look small. But I'm being good and keeping these until either 1) she tells me to replace em or 2) they wear out.

Since she let me make a deal with a friend for more jeep parts, I'm being good now. Still getting a winch though.

Got a soft top, soft top hardware, windows, rear gate bar, and brand new door surrounds for....









$250.00. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Can't beat that!

DavidC
06-06-2005, 11:57 AM
Paul,

Looks good. The only thing missing is some mud on that clean jeep!

Paul E
06-06-2005, 12:02 PM
yeah i know. I actually washed it yesterday after the pics were taken.

Then it rained. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'm wanting to get back up to TB, but the weekends are kinda crazy still down here. But I'll be up there either in June or July to try everything out.

I may have to do the Wheel in the Country place that isn't TOO far for me or hook up with the local offroad club.

Fred
06-06-2005, 12:05 PM
Looks good, for the price I hope it drives nice though. I have been pricing a comprable size liftfor a while, 2-3" and OME had one of the highest prices. I think I decided on a procomp. But never know, procomp doesn't come with all the extras, just springs and shocks. Does OME come with LCA'sv also?

Paul E
06-06-2005, 12:37 PM
No, I didn't go with LCA's. DPGOffroad sells em from JKS as part of a kit if you wanted. Yeah, i know the OME lift was pricey, but my primary concern was onroad comfort and handling and I haven't read about anything coming close to OME for that. OME's should flex just fine offroad and for what I do with this Jeep, it really fit the bill perfectly.

I've ridden with Tom and his Procomp lift seems nice and does VERY well offroad, but the onroad ride was harsher than my wife would tolerate (and I really want her to ride in the Jeep with me).

I opted for the kit that had the shocks, springs, t-case spacer drop, and I got the OME hat with it included. 649 was pushing it with the wife, otherwise I would have gotten the BL/MML and adj trackbars too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

DavidC
06-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Paul,

You might want to put in your "plans" an AA SYE and CV drive shaft.I did a 2" lift that turned out to be over 2.5" and had lots of vibes.

I could not believe the difference in ride due to lack of vibration after the sye and cv shaft install. Rides better than stock.


As far as the wife situation....I married an accountant.I learned to budget "High" on my jeep projects and "show" her how much money I saved...

Good luck with the mods.

David

Paul E
06-06-2005, 02:35 PM
hehhe my wife is a budget analyst too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif So I showed her how much I saved vs other options, but she still veto'd the adj trackbars and such.

I haven't priced the SYE and CV driveshaft. Got links for those? Is it something pretty simple to install?

jwrubi
06-06-2005, 07:04 PM
Nice looking rig Paul. Yeah the OME is pricey but you pay for what you get. My wife had a 2.5 OME on her GC. The ride improved. It is well worth the money. Plus when you decide to go long arm you can part that kit out and make most your money back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brows.gif

BillM
06-06-2005, 08:33 PM
Looks good Paul. Congrats.

Landon
06-06-2005, 09:13 PM
Lookin' good Paul /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tu.gif

Don
06-06-2005, 10:43 PM
Hey Paul: Kermit wants to know why it took you so long to get him lifted. Kermit looks g_o_o_d!!!!!!!!

Paul E
06-07-2005, 07:30 AM
Mainly a timing thing, Don! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Been SO busy.

The only issue I'm seeing with it is that I have a clanking occasionally on uneven bumps, like if I take a speedbump at an angle instead of straight on. I suspect it is my track bar hitting the Kilby, so I may try to scoot the Kilby back a bit more. Anything else I could check? I KNOW it is coming from the rear.

Hipee
06-10-2005, 08:05 PM
Looks really good Paul. What size tires are you going to replace your 30's with when the time comes? Hows the ride both on and off-road?

Don
06-10-2005, 10:53 PM
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Mainly a timing thing, Don! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Been SO busy.

The only issue I'm seeing with it is that I have a clanking occasionally on uneven bumps, like if I take a speedbump at an angle instead of straight on. I suspect it is my track bar hitting the Kilby, so I may try to scoot the Kilby back a bit more. Anything else I could check? I KNOW it is coming from the rear.

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Paul, seems like money and time always get in way of a neat project /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think you are on right track with rear trackbar making noise. I think I have read about trackbar and Kirby fighting for same space. I don't have a gas skid, so I don't have this issue /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif If trackbar isn't problem, look at shocks, but I think you have issue with skid hitting the trackbar.

Paul E
06-13-2005, 07:56 AM
Actually I found the noise.

I secured the fuel electrical connections with zip ties to the other hoses since the Kilby doesn't have the mount that the factory one does. Still rattled.

Checked the shock mounts. Still rattled.

Checked gas tank straps. Loose. Tightened up. Still rattled.

Checked the D shackles on the rear bumper. Took em off. No rattle. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The ride on road is SOOOO nice. I drove through some dirt/mud that is going to become a neighborhood and it handled bumps very well, so I'm curious as to how it will do offroad now. Not this weekend, but the weekend after (25-26) I may try to make it up there with my son for a camping weekend. Once I know more about that weekend, I'll post up.

Paul E
06-16-2005, 09:43 AM
I have a bit of wiggle in the suspension, so I checked the bar pins. The C clips that are used to keep the shock centered on the bar pin came loose and won't stay in their groove.

I ordered JKS bar pin eliminators for front and rear from DPG Offroad. They have a writeup on how to get it all to work, so I'll be doing that probably next week after work sometime. Luckily, I'll be able to just drop the rear shocks and do it, them put em back on w/o too much trouble. That should solve THAT problem.

Those C-clips seemed a bit weak to me when I started. Just didn't seem right to me. So I kept an eye on it. Once those are on, the suspension should be rock solid for a LOOONG time.